James Vornov, MD PhD Neurologist, drug developer and philosopher exploring the neuroscience of decision-making and personal identity.
If things in the world are real, then so are their properties
Today’s question: “If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound?”
I answer, “Absolutely”. We’ll use it to work toward our goal of establishing that there is purpose in the world. In Finding Purpose in the World, I made the argument that things in the world count as real. First, I argued that we need to agree to talk about things like rocks and tables as being real because otherwise we’re stuck with only quarks or the wave function of the universe as reality. Maybe true, but not useful for talking about the material world. So stability became our definition of a thing, which we then extended to include dynamical systems with stablity like living organisms and hurricaines. Even though dynamical systems are taking in and leaving behind matter and energy, they are stable configurations too, just not in equilibrium. And thus our list of what’s real in the world.
So the tree is real. Independent of any observer its a stable assembly itself, so it doesn’t need me or a dog or any other thing in order to be a real, material object. {If real things can exist without observers, then their properties can too.} It falls and creates atmospheric pressue waves. What are we going to say now?
Properties Are Real
Lets take a step back. Is an apple red? Does the tree have mass? Now red isn’t a real, stable thing, its a property of the apple that it absorbs visible light of shorter wavelength, reflecting the longer wavelengths we call red. It will have that spectral output whether there are eyes to decode the spectrum into a subjective color. Once again, its certainly reasonable to retreat to the position that red is a color, wavelength is a physical property and that’s fine. I only want to assert that what we percieve as color is a real property of the real object of apple whether or not you or I or a dog sees it.
This reflection is relational in the real world. The sun is a another real thing, and so are the photons, the daylight streaming through the window glass to reflect off or be absorbed by the apple. Of course the apple is sitting on the table because it has this property of mass, deforming space-time or some such thing and the big old earth has its mass that keeps the apple at rest on the table. Each part of the scene is inanimate and stable for the most part in its equilibrium. In general, it’s easy to draw the outlines around things in the world and talk about their interactions whithout bringing observers into it. Which again is my whole point: real things with real properties in the absence of observers.
It follows that when the tree falls in the forest, (mass and gravity again) it sets off those vibrations in the surrounding atmosphere through these same kind of physical interactions. The tree is real, the air is real and the vibrations are a property in the air created by the tree falling. Does it make a sound? I’ll say just as much as the apple is red when no one is around to look. Sure red and sound are subjective events in awareness, but their physical correlates are real even without me and my big brain.
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